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Post by mleyden on Sat May 23, 2015 5:04 pm

1978 Freeman 33 Sport, 2 x Ford Sabre 120hp (Ford 2715e 6.2lt diesels), 6 berth with 2 x toilets. Can do about 17 / 18 knts but uses approx. 10 Gallons an hour in the process! Had it now for 4 years, was in need of TLC and have been (slowly) working my way through the list of things that need doing. Mechanically (touch would) in pretty good nick!

Nearly there! Replaced all the opening windows (as most were cracked or had milky laminate), had the packing done on the shafts as they leaked badly last season, and put on some new anti-fouling...

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Freemans are quite unique in that the engines are nearly under the deck, giving very wide spacing between the shafts. Great for driving like a tank / caterpillar, not so good when you only have one engine working!

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Will show interior photos once I have cleaned up!

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Re: Freeman 33 Sport - Mutual Admiration

Post by mleyden on Sat May 23, 2015 5:10 pm

I believe it was on the Thames at one stage in life, but is now on Lough Derg, Ireland. Would be interested if anyone knows anything about the history of it... The name appears to be the original? No idea of the name origin... (a bit of a mouthful)
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Post by Prof Pat Pending on Sat May 23, 2015 11:34 pm

Very nice
I do like the 33 sport.....a lot Smile
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Post by Dermot on Mon May 25, 2015 9:32 pm

Very nice design.

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Post by sneddie on Wed Oct 21, 2015 5:53 pm

Like Pat I really do like the 33 Sport. We regularly see one called Drum Beat when we are on the Thames that is just wonderful. No point having the big Sabre engines, just as well with those fuel costs at speed!

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Post by Prof Pat Pending on Wed Oct 21, 2015 6:02 pm

Drum Beat is a bit special, one of the few 33's that can get under Osney Bridge iirc
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Post by sneddie on Wed Oct 21, 2015 7:27 pm

Another huge plus for me! It really is something special.

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Post by Prof Pat Pending on Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:02 pm

And me...and Ken.
If any of them come up for sale I can see them having no trouble at all selling
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Post by Liberty on Thu Oct 22, 2015 9:59 am

Prof Pat Pending wrote:Drum Beat is a bit special, one of the few 33's that can get under Osney Bridge iirc

Is that one of the few that was fitted with small engines for Thames use only?
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Post by Prof Pat Pending on Thu Oct 22, 2015 10:04 am

It is, there are two of them, Four Ferrets is the other iirc
But there's also a normal 33 sport that been converted to go under Osney
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Re: Freeman 33 Sport - Mutual Admiration

Post by Russ on Sun Nov 08, 2015 12:32 pm

Hi Mark,
             sorry to reply on this link but somehow I lost the link to your question about the roof of my F33 Sport and the gas lid.
Anyway I've taken some pictures of the roof laying down on the floor of the wheelhouse but I'm not sure if they are any good as my roof has sun windows in it and also not sure what you want to see. It seems I can only post 2 at a time so I'll add to them after this.
Also I said that the lid to my gas container had hinges but it doesn't ..see further pic.

On a different topic I have a slow leak noticed in the bilges of both sides and I'm guessing that the gland packing needs replacing as it probably hasn't had it done in many years. You said that you have done it so is it a simple task or would I have to get a more engineering minded person involved. I don't have that much marine experience at the moment which is why I got a boat like this....to learn.
Windows is another thing I'll need to redo as have lots of leaks on the starboard side of the wheelhouse.
More pics to come and let me know if you need anything different.




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Post by Russ on Sun Nov 08, 2015 12:36 pm

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The underneath of the cover for the gas bottle hatch.
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Re: Freeman 33 Sport - Mutual Admiration

Post by mleyden on Sat Nov 14, 2015 2:57 pm

Thanks Russ... it looks like your sunroofs are later additions, as the originals would have been Weathershield vinyl car sunroofs (which leaked like sieves!). I imagine the vinyl interior covering was replaced with the sunroofs also.
I was thinking of making a pod for my VHF just like yours, so glad to see i'm not the only one.
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Post by mleyden on Sat Nov 14, 2015 3:01 pm

So my gas locker is missing the metal strips, which I assumed were some sort of hinge... I also am missing the lock, but Sheridan sell this - and you can use the square 'T' handle to open it (the same as used to keep the side panels in the cockpit).
The problem is the gas locker lid leaks, and my metal gas container rusted through. It was quite a job to replace it!

Thanks for the pictures, I'll bo doubt be in touch to ask for comparisons in the future!
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Post by mleyden on Sat Nov 14, 2015 3:04 pm

As to gland packing... I ended up getting someone to do it for me. Mine are a total pain in the neck to get at. The right one is buried under a locker, and the left one under the rear toilet. He had to remove the toilet to get at it!

He said to me afterwards - 'I know why you asked me to do it!'

It was worth every penny!

Again, Sheridans will sell you the correct packing kit.

I also installed remote greasers as I had remote grease nipples under the rear steps, which I found a complete pain. I bought 2 x bronze greasers from ASAP.
I also installed 3 x Whale auto bilge pumps, as we have 3 separate bilges (left engine, central and right engine).

Glad to say, my bilges are bone dry now! First time in a long time, and I read somewhere that Osmosis can occur quicker with constantly wet bilges...
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Post by Liberty on Sat Nov 14, 2015 3:46 pm

My 32 has a similar gas locker lid, the strips are just to locate it so it will lock.  I'm not sure they were ever intended to be water tight.  I put some neoprene rubber strip round mine, but when ever I open it there is heaps of condensation in it.....  Just make sure it is draining well and let the air circulate.

My gland packings are as bad... under the wardrobe floor and in a cupboard.  One you can hardly even see!!!  I'm thinking of replacing them with PSS seals or Volvo/Radice if there is one to fit.  As I need to replace the rear bulkhead for the aft cabin as it is rotten.

Previous owner fitted a nice set of 3 pumps and switches.  Theres a lot of drips and dribbles end up back there.

I made a little pod for my new VHF and held it up with some cunning panel fixings so I can take it off in the winter and store in the warm and dry.

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Re: Freeman 33 Sport - Mutual Admiration

Post by Russ on Mon Nov 23, 2015 9:11 am

re- gland packing.
Well I was at my boat at the weekend examining it as to how to get to the area for gland packing and I'm non the wiser.
Mleyden (what's your first name?) did you take any pictures when yours were done they would be very helpful if you did. Where abouts is the shaft log assy? I'm hoping its entry is after the fuel tanks as that would make a major job uber major and very expensive if I had to remove the fuel tanks as well.
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Post by Liberty on Mon Nov 23, 2015 9:51 am

I'm not too familiar with the rear cabins on 33's. But I imagine the stern glands will be in the bottom of a cupboard, under a panel/floor, or under the side bunks if a twin bed arrangement.
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Post by mleyden on Mon Nov 23, 2015 1:37 pm

Left gland is under the floor in the rear toilet. Small hatch in the floor. Right one is under the closet on the right. Looking into the bilges from the cockpit, you should be able to see the right one fairly easily (more space on that side). But it would be impossible to access from there, so you need to go under the rear closet floor. Might need to pull up the carpet?

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Post by Russ on Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:13 pm

Cheers Mark.
Gonna have another look this weekend.
Jeez aint boating fun. Cant wait for the spring when I'm going to replace all windows in the cockpit to stop the damn leaks   
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Post by mleyden on Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:33 pm

I have a lot of leaks in all my windows. Pretty sure it is happening at the frame joins, and not the glass. So have a look at those. I think you have later Windows that me though...
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Post by Liberty on Wed Dec 02, 2015 6:39 pm

Russ wrote:Cheers Mark.
Gonna have another look this weekend.
Jeez aint boating fun. Cant wait for the spring when I'm going to replace all windows in the cockpit to stop the damn leaks   
lol!
My first stop would be Anglia Auto Vents.......  A top job...... 100% no leaks - guaranteed.

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Beautiful!

Post by Dave Abbott on Thu Dec 03, 2015 5:16 pm

Very nice indeed.
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Post by Russ on Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:51 pm

Hi and Happy New Year all.
Found out where the glands are now.
Thanks Mark they were where you said under nice little access covers. 1st image is the starboard side and 2nd is the port. Looks like I'll have to do a bit of dismantling of the closet to get full access to the l.h.s.
Question is can the gland packing be done whilst in the water or will I have to bring it out.
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